Inspired by the random name generator in Erny's Warlord: Battle in the Darklands I wondered what a name generator based on archeogaming and the historical period of Citadel Miniatures and Warhammer gaming I'm interested in (i.e. the glory days of 1st and 2nd edition) might look like.
Rather than dice and tables I've used the magic of modern random number generation built into Google Sheets to generate the list. And in fact you can do this too, by simply refreshing this page:
Or if the fancy-pants iframe above isn't working visit : Ye Olde Oldhammer Orc Name Generator
So how did this list come about I hear you ask? Well, ignoring any other published texts, scenarios, boardgames (sorry Bilge Gutrot) or other mentions of Orcish characters, I decided to focus solely on the names given to Citadel Miniatures, and scoured catalogue collection and the Stuff of Legends to produce a definitive list of Old School Citadel Miniatures Orcs Names :
Source | Range | Firstname | Secondname |
Jun 1984 | RR5 Harboth Black Mountain | Harboth | |
Jun 1984 | RR5 Harboth Black Mountain | Yaskin | Forit |
Jun 1984 | C15 Orc | Shield Bearer | |
Jun 1984 | C15 Orc | Bladebane | |
Jun 1984 | C15 Orc | Cyclopse | |
Jun 1984 | C15 Orc | Warlord | |
Jun 1984 | C15 Orc | Maulman | |
Jun 1984 | C15 Orc | Dwarfsmiter | |
Jun 1984 | C15 Orc | Axe Killer | |
Jun 1984 | C15 Orc | Maniac | |
Jun 1984 | C15 Orc | Guardsman | |
Compedium 3 | C15 Orc | Gashcog | |
Compedium 3 | C15 Orc | Nazram | |
Compedium 3 | C15 Orc | Bungerbol | |
Compedium 3 | C15 Orc | Grigal | |
Compedium 3 | C15 Orc | Nishrok | |
Compedium 3 | C15 Orc | Gobstob | |
Compedium 3 | C15 Orc | Brugzod | |
Compedium 3 | C15 Orc | Tizog | |
Compedium 3 | C15 Orc | Lutnob | |
Mighty Ugezod Death Commandos | Mighty Ugezod Death Commandos | Ugezod | |
Mighty Ugezod Death Commandos | Mighty Ugezod Death Commandos | Guzrod | Dogchild |
Mighty Ugezod Death Commandos | Mighty Ugezod Death Commandos | Mormo | Jabberbinder |
Mighty Ugezod Death Commandos | Mighty Ugezod Death Commandos | ushtug | the gut |
Aug 1986 Flyer | C15 Orc | Kroglod | |
Aug 1986 Flyer | C15 Orc | Hagblad | the Maimer |
Aug 1986 Flyer | C15 Orc | Barg | Brainbasher |
Aug 1986 Flyer | C15 Orc | Graglob | Grinning |
Aug 1986 Flyer | C15 Orc | Hoglod | Bone-breaker |
Aug 1986 Flyer | C15 Orc | Glodbog | Crusher |
Aug 1986 Flyer | C15 Orc | Garglod | Bow-Biter |
Aug 1986 Flyer | C15 Orc | Egrod | Arrowchuker |
Aug 1986 Flyer | C15 Orc | Kaglod | Chopper |
Aug 1986 Flyer | C15 Orc | Owd | Glodger |
Aug 1986 Flyer | C15 Orc | Holf | Stunty-sticker |
Aug 1986 Flyer | c21 Boar Rider | Bodblat | Standardbearer |
Aug 1986 Flyer | c21 Boar Rider | Garg | Stuntyspiker |
Aug 1986 Flyer | c21 Boar Rider | Grodbol | Slicer |
Aug 1986 Flyer | c21 Boar Rider | Tegrod | Skullhat |
Aug 1986 Flyer | c21 Boar Rider | Gaglob | Chuckbolt |
Aug 1986 Flyer | c21 Boar Rider | Nogzod | Bighat |
Aug 1986 Flyer | c21 Boar Rider | Goglob | Bighat |
Aug 1986 Flyer | c21 Boar Rider | Gegblod | Slasher |
Aug 1986 Flyer | c21 Boar Rider | Bargog | Smasher |
Aug 1986 Flyer | c21 Boar Rider | Crazgog | Stuntybelter |
Dec 1986 | C27 Orc Ballista & Crew | Bolbosh | |
Dec 1986 | C27 Orc Ballista & Crew | Onefang | |
Dec 1986 | C27 Orc Ballista & Crew | Gnashtor | |
Dec 1986 | C27 Orc Ballista & Crew | Slaghead | |
Dec 1986 | C27 Orc Ballista & Crew | Gubspor | |
Dec 1986 | C27 Orc Ballista & Crew | Grimnose | |
March 1987 | c21 Boar Rider | Axe Hacker | |
March 1987 | c21 Boar Rider | Bulgnosh | Bigblade |
March 1987 | c21 Boar Rider | Dogface | |
March 1987 | c21 Boar Rider | Spearscreamer | |
March 1987 | c21 Boar Rider | Anzak | Archer |
Spring 1987 | Orc1 | Orbid | |
Spring 1987 | Orc1 | Darket | |
Spring 1987 | Orc1 | Bruk | |
Spring 1987 | Orc1 | Ranglit | |
Spring 1987 | Orc1 | Angok | |
Spring 1987 | Orc1 | Zinge | |
Spring 1987 | Orc1 | Spikk | |
Spring 1987 | Orc1 | Mannik | |
Spring 1987 | Orc1 | Myarg | |
Spring 1987 | Orc1 | Slyss | |
Spring 1987 | Orc1 | Hurt | |
Spring 1987 | Orc1 | Samig | |
Spring 1987 | Orc1 | Fletch |
So I left out Ugezods mates who aren't Orcs. Goblins, Ogres, Hobgoblins, Kobolds, are all quite different and deserving of their own enquiry, maybe next time lads.
Besides the nice pun - Yeraskin Forit ("You are asking for it" - a beating, that is), there's some obvious trends here - first names are largely two syllables , and last names are largely compound words consisting of two elements that usually refer to either an act of violence, an enemy or a weapon. The fore-name parts are highly reminiscent of Bill & Ben the Flowerpot men in full on swear mode, with lots of 'ob', 'lob', 'gl' which is quite in keeping with Tolkiens naming of Orcs which gravitates around the same sounds. The more observant of you will have noticed that the Spring 87 names have a very different set of syllables, much more focussed on the shaper 'k' and 't' sounds than the 'g', not sure why, but it's possible the person who was responsible for making up silly names for miniatures was changed.
It's interesting that Man and Dwarf (and the nickname for Dwarves 'Stunty') appears whereas Elf does not. There might be some significance in that - perhaps Elves are perhaps not seen as a 'worthy' foe, or perhaps the sector of Orcdom in question doesn't come into contact with Elves, Slann, Lizardmen or Hobbits. Uzlud Frogspiker would be fine name for a Lustrian orc. Again, there is a Tolkienism in that Shagrat could be a similar formulation, although I think the professor might shake his head at the suggestion that it's a compound word indicating bestiality with vermin.
Anyway, I built a table of the component parts of the published names:
Forename A | Forename B | Surname A | Surname B |
ang | ak | arrow | bane |
anz | arg | axe | basher |
ba | bid | big | belter |
bar | blad | big | binder |
bod | blat | big | biter |
bol | blod | blade | blade |
bru | bog | bone | bolt |
brug | bol | bow | breaker |
bulg | bol | brain | child |
bunger | bosh | chopper | chucker |
craz | both | chuck | er |
dark | cog | dog | hat |
dog | et | dwarf | killer |
eg | face | glodg | lord |
ga | gal | gut | man |
gag | ge | jabber | smiter |
garg | gog | maul | spiker |
gash | gog | skull | sticker |
geg | head | slash | |
glod | ig | slicer | |
uge | zod | smash | |
guz | rod | stunty | |
mor | mo | war | |
ush | tug | ||
gnash | kin | ||
gob | lit | ||
gog | lob | ||
grag | lob | ||
gri | lob | ||
grim | lod | ||
grod | lod | ||
gub | lod | ||
hag | lod | ||
har | nik | ||
hog | nob | ||
kag | nose | ||
krog | nosh | ||
lut | ok | ||
man | ram | ||
my | rg | ||
naz | rg | ||
nish | rod | ||
nog | rod | ||
or | rok | ||
owd | spor | ||
rang | stob | ||
sam | tor | ||
slag | zod | ||
sly | zod | ||
spi | zog | ||
teg | |||
ti | |||
yas | |||
zin |
You'll have noticed I haven't normalised the data. Indeed, items that have more frequency in the original name set have more frequency in the component data table, so some elements have a higher chance of appearing. Its not a perfect weighting (which would have to take into account the size of the dataset), but it will do, won't it.
Anyway here's a bunch of Orcy ne'er-do-wells generated from this list:
Ushlod Glodgspiker
Gnashrg Chopperkiller
Gegspor Gutspiker
Ushrok Arrowman
Nazrok the Smiter
Morzod Dogkiller
Goglob Slicerblade
Tiet the Axe
Gabog Maul
Ushlod Bigbasher
Glodrg Chucklord
I've had to add in "the" to a couple of names to make them read better, but otherwise it's a pretty good emulation of a mid-80s Citadel Miniatures catalogue Orc nomenclature.
What I love most about random generation is how they feed the creative response, much like random character generation in Dungeons & Dragons (3d6 in order or nothing). One can just imagine the mace-weilding leering stance of of Doggog Dwarfbasher, or the stooped, grinning gait of Banik Glodgehat underneath his patched-up leather helm, or the arrogant gesticulating of the Necromantic Orc Wizard who is Glodok Skullbinder.. They practically design themselves.
Occasionally the generator does produce something weird - Angbid Stuntylord for example. It's possible just to ignore it as being out of flavour, or perhaps it's an opportunity for backstory, maybe he's a slave-master with a retinue of Dwarven captives, or carries severed dwarf-heads on his standard or belt.
If you're interested in the nomenclature of the orc in gaming literature (and let's be honest, who isn't?) have a look at Zenopus excellent article on Gygaxian Orc Tribes names. Hmm...perhaps a ramble through the rulebooks of Oldhammer picking out tribal names... Oh yeah, and if the Ye Olde Oldhammer Orc Name Generator vomits up any particularly interesting, funny or inspiring names for you, I'd love to hear them.
Fantastic work, Zhu! "Bulglob Brainspiker" is my favourite so far!
ReplyDeleteCheers Douglas! It's a good one, he sounds like a slightly overweight boar rider with a spear to me.
DeleteManrod choppersticker. The mind boggles about his hobbies!
ReplyDeleteLol! Orc Champion of Slaanesh. Hangs out with Slaghead Jabberlord, or so I hear!
DeleteThat is some awesome work there Zhu! Very cool, and will be putting this to use. ;)
ReplyDeleteCheers man! Have fun with it!
DeleteAwesome stuff. If memory serves, there is also an official Orc/Black Speech name generator in the Mighty Empires rulebook's campaign section. See here (p.97-98): http://talisman.clift.org/talismanisland/mightyempires/Mighty%20Empires%20-%20Rules.pdf
ReplyDeleteThank you, that is really interesting! although it is a little out of 'period' for me, it's worth looking at, and making some comment!
Delete"The Black Speech" is a obvious Tolkienism, but I do wonder how the Skaven, Dark Elves and Goblinoids are all supposed to share a common tongue, this seems to have no relation on how the races of the Known World developed, and I don't think would be born out by comparison.
For the placenames and forenames, there is definitely some commonality between the old catalogue names and the list of elements provided - but notably we also get the "Ash" and "Naz" from the opening of Tolkiens Ring inscription in Black Speech, alongside "ungol" and the "slag".
I especially liked this bit:
"You may also like to add a title suitable for the creature's race, and a christian name too if you wish. A Dwarf hero could be Hold Master Guthri Kulbard Longbeard, for example. These further details are left to the players to devise, and can be based on the metal model (longhorn, flatnose, bigteeth, etc) or a deed performed by the character in your campaign (Orc Slayer, Despoiler, Stunty Squasher, etc)."
These are exactly the kind of naming strategies - describing the figure, and forming a narrative, that we see in the old catalogue names, although Mighty Empires lacks the random generation of such (one might suggest it is positioning the reader as a meer consumer of miniatures rather than a creator of characters)
As Rick Priestly was one of the writers of Mighty Empires - along with Nigel Stillman, and was certainly around during the 1st/2nd edition orc naming period I'm going to blame him for the good bits!
Glad you liked it. Still love Mighty Empires! It's like a game for my eventual retirement...
DeleteThank you for sharing the tool. I got “Spiblad Dogchild” from the generator. What a charming name it is! Although I do not own even a single Orc miniature, I think I can use the table for my Chaos army.
ReplyDeleteThanks Wojciech, I like “Spiblad Dogchild”, a nasty fellow if ever there was one!
DeleteOh. Ok. So I couldn't resist and ended up doing the same process and scratch-building a thing what does Chaos Warrior names. I'll write a blogpost about it, but for now Slamkar Darkhelm and Zogic Bloodbringer send their regards.
DeleteYes!!!!!
DeleteDuke Zogco Heartbound One Eye send his regards as well.
ReplyDeleteSounds like a tragically romantic chap.
DeleteNow this is what I call a service to the hobby. Hopefully the ork and chaos list is just the first of several censuses of races and names from 2nd and 3rd edition WHFB.
ReplyDeleteI had to name a bunch of dwarves the other day for my Lichemaster project, and I (amateur that I am) had to resort to naming them after Canadian beers (Carling the Black, Molson Olson, etc).
Anyway, I was thinking about what you said about elves not getting in the names. Perhaps its a Tolkien-esque aversion that orcs have to all things elvish?
Anyway, thanks for the great Orctober present!
Regional Beers is a good one.
DeleteMaybe you're right, and even the word Elf could be taboo. What would they say instead Pointy-ears?
Speaking of elves I did run through those, but haven't written it up. Lazy me. They did get integrated into the Oldhammer Scenario generator - also not blogged about that lol!
What a little gem! I've actually got an orc warband infested dungeon coming up in my D&D campaign, and now they all have names! The favourite of mine so far is: Bruggog Stuntybreaker, although Bodge Dogbiter (the band's village idiot) is a close second :)
ReplyDeleteHey cool! A whole warband of randomly generated Oldhammerish Orc names.
DeleteBodge Dogbiter by name, Bodge Dogbiter by nature.